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Discussion for Today

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This page is transcluded from Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025_May_4


May 4

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NEW NOMINATIONS

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Category:Named on Saudi Arabia's list of most wanted suspected terrorists

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Nominator's rationale: This is my first attempt at a rename; I'd love for a better suggestion. This category name is lacking a noun. FWIW, the page name is Saudi list of most-wanted suspected terrorists. SMasonGarrison 21:54, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Rhodesian neurosurgeons

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Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. This category only has one person in it. SMasonGarrison 21:02, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Global events

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Nominator's rationale: delete, "event" is not a defining characteristic of these articles and subcategories. The category contains a hodgepodge of the past, the content is completely unrelated to each other. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:21, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:United States Army chiefs of staff

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Nominator's rationale: "US Army chiefs of staff" is subject to misinterpretation as meaning anyone who has been a chief of staff; this category is for persons who have served as the Chief of Staff of the United States Army. The proposed category aligns with the name of the main article of the category. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 20:16, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:History of the Malian Air Force

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Nominator's rationale: Upmerge redundant category SMasonGarrison 16:58, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Malian military aviation

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Nominator's rationale: Upmerge redundant category SMasonGarrison 16:58, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Latvian Muay Thai practitioners

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Nominator's rationale: Upmwerge for now. This category is underpopulated SMasonGarrison 16:34, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:People shot dead by law enforcement officers in Denmark

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Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. Underpopulated category. @Ikamborden:, Please populate the categories you create. SMasonGarrison 16:25, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Deaths by Israeli drone strikes during the Israel–Hamas war

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Nominator's rationale: Underpopulated category. Deaths by Israeli drone strikes doesn't have sufficient content to justify diffusion by conflict, Furthermore, there are only two pages in here, one of which is a redirect. SMasonGarrison 16:17, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Church-Mosques

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Nominator's rationale: Category for just two things, on a characteristic that's already accounted for by other categories as it is. The two entries here are both buildings that started out as Christian churches but were later converted into Islamic mosques as their locations became Ottomanized -- but we already have Category:Mosques converted from churches to cover that fact off, and both of the articles in here are already in appropriate subcategories of that, so this isn't adding anything that other categories haven't already taken care of. If anything, it's really just a WP:SHAREDNAME category that's here solely because both articles have the "Church-Mosque" compound in their titles. Bearcat (talk) 15:58, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Mosques completed in 1375

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Nominator's rationale: Categories recently created for just one or two mosques each, in a tree without any other by-year siblings for their eras. These are two of the only three categories in Category:Mosques by year of completion that exist for any year prior to the 20th century, and the third has already been listed for a separate discussion below -- and in both cases, the decade target is not large enough to be comprehensively subbed out by individual year either (in the case of 1375, further, the two pages were both left duplicate categorized in the decade category alongside the year-specific category.)
As always, navigation of Wikipedia is not aided by obsessively subcategorizing everything down into the narrowest possible microcategories of just one or two things across the board -- the decade level is entirely sufficient here, and a year-specific level is not needed, if there are just one or two things per year and no other year in that decade or even century has a sibling category at all. Bearcat (talk) 15:44, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I accept that they have 1-3 mosque in list but most mosques are not categorised, I will do it gradually, senior Mr.work-shy (talk) 16:36, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Pakistani fashion labels

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Nominator's rationale: Overlapping categories SMasonGarrison 15:38, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Women's football in West Germany

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Nominator's rationale: If this should be a seperate category from Category:Women's football in Germany then I suggest to to clearly explain this in the top section of the category page. If not I suggest to merge both categories. Robby (talk) 15:30, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Mosques completed in 685

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Nominator's rationale: One-entry category, in a tree that doesn't otherwise have any sibling categories for any year earlier than 1375 -- and even the 1375 category is still an outlier of dubious necessity, since Category:Mosques by year of completion doesn't consistently have year-by-year subcategories for every year across the board until 1900. As always, navigation of Wikipedia is not aided by obsessively subcategorizing everything down into the narrowest possible microcategories for just one thing -- we don't need this for just one mosque if it's almost 700 years removed from any of its siblings. Bearcat (talk) 15:26, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Nigerian fashion entrepreneurs

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Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's really not enough people in Fashion entrepreneurs (9 total) to justify diffusion by nationality. Also Entrepreneurs redirects to businesspeople, so I have doubts that the parent category should exist at all. SMasonGarrison 15:03, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:5th-century Patriarchs of Alexandria

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Nominator's rationale: Redundant category, to either merge or turn into a subcat of the latter. Est. 2021 (talk · contribs) 13:26, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Towns by country

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Nominator's rationale: manually merge, "town" has a different meaning in every country, some countries do not even distinguish between towns and cities, therefore we have been in a long process to merge them to "populated places". This nomination is a tiny part of that process. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:08, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Most articles and subcategories will already be in a Populated places by country subdivision category, therefore the proposal is to merge manually rather than automatically. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:22, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Redundant at lease for Sudan. FuzzyMagma (talk) 11:50, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Recipients of the Order of the National Flag

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Nominator's rationale: This category was previously deleted under the discussion log here in 2013: Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2013 August 25 - Toadboy123 (talk) 09:50, 4 May 2025 (UTC).[reply]

Category:Patent legislation

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Nominator's rationales: (1) I got lost in the category trees before realizing they were not fully connected; I propose to make the smaller category into a redirect. (2) The relevant legislation is almost always national, so "by country" is the right concept. (3) In a few cases, e.g. Patent Act and international treaties, the concept is transnational, so an article can be classified in more generic categories such as Category:Patent law. (4) "Legislation" would be a better title for legislative work in progress, but we have few if any articles about that; the articles are about completed Acts aka laws. I only need to do a dozen manual edits to get this done, I think. I wanted to check with experts here to see if there's any reason not to charge ahead with the task. -- econterms (talk) 20:01, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • It is not clear to me why a "law by country" tree and a "legislation" category cannot exist in parallel. Of course articles should also be in country categories if they exist, but that is not a reason to drop the "Legislation" category per se. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:08, 27 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I will tag the category. Thoughts on Marcocapelle's comment?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:28, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:19th-century Azerbaijani male actors

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Nominator's rationale: Delete for now. The only member of this category (Huseyn Arablinski) became notable in 1905...which is the 20th-century SMasonGarrison 00:27, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:1st-century texts in Latin

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Nominator's rationale: manually merge, isolated category, this is not useful for navigation. Manually merge because most articles are already in Category:1st-century inscriptions and Category:Latin inscriptions. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:34, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Oppose: Why and how is this not "helpful for navigation"? This cross-category is defining/neutral/verifiable and precise and can therefore be kept. It currently contains 5 pages but can obviously contain more. -Mushy Yank. 18:58, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on Marcocapelle's comment?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:27, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:German historical fencers

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Nominator's rationale: delete, as the header already indicates this is a confusing category. Instead I have added the articles to Category:14th-century fencers, Category:15th-century fencers etc. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:38, 19 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Also merge to Category:German male fencers?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 23:38, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:26, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Lý dynasty in fiction

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Nominator's rationale: delete, one article only, which is not helpful for navigation. I don't think we need to merge this somewhere, the article is already in proper 13th-century and Vietnamese fiction categories. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:17, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose: it is defining/verifiable/neutral and precise, so can be kept. -Mushy Yank. 18:54, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • That is not the point of the nomination. Categories exist for easy navigation between related articles and this is not helpful for navigation. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:15, 27 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    What is not the point of your nomination? How I missing it? You suggest deletion and my !vote is based on the fact that this a perfectly valid category, so I oppose its deletion. As for it being useful or not, I find it useful and it makes navigation between categories about fiction in various dynasties or other periods, easy; see Category:History of Vietnam in fiction. The category being valid, I therefore find its deletion unnecessary. -Mushy Yank. 21:57, 27 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Delete. Validity is not why we have categories. The criteria is whether the category is helpful for moving between pages. There is only one page in here, which is extremely unhelpful for navigation. SMasonGarrison 00:26, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BlasterOfHouses (HouseBlaster's alt • talk • he/they) 00:19, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Children's books set in ancient history and Middle Ages

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Nominator's rationale: merge, mostly 1- or 2-article categories, this is not helpful for navigation. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:00, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Oppose: I find it helpful (how is it not helpful for navigation?) and I can't see why, when precise defining/neutral/verifiable categories exist, we should merge them into extremely broad ones covering centuries. It is not only unnecessary, it is detrimental to the project in my opinion. As for the number of articles contained (if that is relevant), one contains 6 pages, another 4 and a subcat!) and was a WP:BEFORE performed to check that those categories cannot contain more pages, anyway? -Mushy Yank. 18:52, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BlasterOfHouses (HouseBlaster's alt • talk • he/they) 00:19, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:English expatriates in the Habsburg Netherlands

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Nominator's rationale: Redundant category layer. I think that this category should be renamed and reparented, if not merged. SMasonGarrison 18:50, 19 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on Marcocapelle's comment?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 23:25, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:14, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Smasongarrison: Thoughts? HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:15, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Happy for the alternative rename to Expatriates in the Spanish Netherlands SMasonGarrison 00:19, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:American historians by populated place

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Nominator's rationale: Subcategory with just two entries. Also merge to Category:Historians by populated place Lost in Quebec (talk) 23:15, 19 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on 4meter4 and Marcocapelle's points?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 23:23, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:14, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge for now. @4meter4 is welcome to create additional subcats, but we depreciated small cat because potential for growth was too nebulous. I'm neutral on local historians, but that's because I wonder how messy it could get down the line when people are miscategorized. SMasonGarrison 00:24, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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